Page O’ Nerds

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 urkleI was browsing the net, looking into what Lucene.NET is all about.  Interesting enough, I was awe-struck when I came across the official “Page O’Nerds”!  In fact though it was the most interesting page in the entire apache site because it actually “drew my attention” and had some real content in it other than plain text.

This link brought forth to you from an anti-Java, Oracle, ColdFusion (believe it or not, some places still use it as sad as it is), PHP, Unix, and Apache dude…yes very shallow but true and I’m not afraid to admit it.

You ever wonder why Java, UNIX, and Apache pages are so damn boring and why you get lost so much in them with useless information?  It’s because programmers who stick with this idea that “old school is cool” think that text is amazingly hip.  I think that’s just ridiculous and I get tired of sites that look like they were built in the early 1990s regardless if it’s “just a site about development”.  I just love the old school blue links…well, not really and I think it’s quite annoying to my eyes.  Blue needs to be phased out of nerd pages period…there’s just way too much of it.  Try some new colors besides red, aqua, grey, blue, and yellow people.

I think I almost when blind with the red box on this page.

Look at StackOverflow.com for example.  Yea there may be nerds programming that site, however you’re not going to see any nerdy old school blue there, no way and I respect that.  If I had to code in Java and use Apache, I’d fall asleep looking at their sites.  I don’t care what you say, when you’re looking up stuff on the net for development (whether is documentation, forum, anything) it is nice to have a site that gets you a little more excited than a textbook looking 80s site these days especially when you’re on the net for hours looking stuff up.  How about we go back to black and white TV while we’re at it?

Thumbs up too for sites like jQuery, Codeplex, etc. that actually get you excited about code because their site doesn’t make you drown in black and white text. 

Yes, I am automatically a nerd…simply because I develop…I won’t argue that.  I suppose now you want me to post my picture to prove I’m “cool”; not a fat chance.  However between you and I (cool developers): blue links are just lame no matter what site you’re talking about.  Style those f’ers.  

And to the true “nerd Developers” (yes, architects..who might even be you right now) please get out of your tight blue jeans, puke colored pants, yellow stained shirts, shirts that look like they came from goodwill, unmatched shoes, and thick glasses and live in the today and that includes understanding that black and white terminals, blue links, and a site with just text is no longer acceptable or “cool”.  Have some respect for yourself other than just "I live in a cave”.  Fortunately I dress half way decent and present myself with a pair of shoes, shirt, and pants that “match” on a typical basis.

I’ve said my peace about a few things in general about development here…one being that I think being “nerdy” is not “cool”.  Second being that I don’t understand why we as developers think it’s hip or cool to have a site today with all text and blue links. In other words, it’s getting old people.  And this is the only post you’re gonna see on my site categorized as Java so there’s my contribution.

Is this post lame?  probably.  And you’re definitely entitled to your opinion as well.

Print | posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:13 PM

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I will have to go ahead and agree with you - pure textual sites are hard to pull off visually - and are boring as hell... unless you are into MUD RPG games purely text-driven :)
Left by Dentist on Oct 07, 2009 12:00 AM

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I wouldn't knock any developer or person for that matter who chooses to share information with others for free. Their doing a service for others. I think most developers would tell you that they don't give a crap about whether or not their site is 'cool'. I would argue that alot of developers make a point to make their site as uncool as possible, and to focus more on the content. I will sing the praises of anyone who shares helpful information on their dime on the web, regardless of what their site looks like.
Left by Phil Maceri on Oct 07, 2009 11:42 AM

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My friend (since yes we know each other quite well and you're an IT Manager who knows nothing about development), I knew this kind of canned comment was coming and very typical to those who "don't get it" and dno't get usability, and quite frankly the Internet as a whole and how these tools (documentation sites, code sites) are to be viewed as an application so that means usability and yes look & feel does help the consumer, the buyer, the potential developer who might be more intrigued to use Java, use whatever it may be.

You're first mistake and assumption about my post which I honestly when I get these kind of remarks get pretty annoyed because it's totally naive. It has nothing to do about being "cool" in terms of the site that is. This is often the canned reply most people give me.

If you're going to put up information, put it up well. Don't do a hack job. We are expected to share information as developers, it's just what you do to contribute to the global "team", your fellow programmer. So it's not something you have to sit there and be so humble about as you state.

Cool has nothing to do with it. It's called Usability. Look it up. Look & feel plays a part of that no matter how many times you want to claim that "looks don't matter". Look at the Internet. You're telling me looks don't matter? IT does matter. It matters for any application, any site you create. Because why? It helps make it functional, and it helps to improve usability.

It's naive to say that my post means that a site has to be "cool". You've completely missed the point which is typical when people talk about aesthetics, site flow, and site usability.

A site, no matter if it's a construction site, development documentation site, office supply site, whatever needs to be usable.  And look & feel plays a huge part on the eyes, the way you interact and read the site, and much much more.  To make a blanket statement in response to say "cool doesn't matter" is like saying you shouldn't care if someone throws up florescent green links.

If I wanted the web to be all black and white with blue links, I'd resort to just buying books and reading the damn newspaper.  Boring and does not get me into the flow when I want to find information easier, faster, and that happens when you're site doesn't work like it was coded in 1990.  This is no longer acceptable.
Left by Dave Schinkel on Oct 07, 2009 11:50 AM

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@Phil "How come you filter your comments and delete the ones you don't like? You a sucka"

Excuse me? I don't see one comment you made that has been deleted. Glasses?
Left by Dave Schinkel on Oct 07, 2009 12:05 PM

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I hate to say it, but the sites you pointed out - Java, Apache, Unix - look like they were coded in the 90's because they WERE coded in the 90's (or the early 2000's at the latest).

That said, I have to agree that the Sun Java site has serious issues with navigation - it's always difficult to find the relevant and required downloads and documentation. While the Apache site also had its share of navigation problems, it was never as bad as Sun's.
Left by Loh on Nov 08, 2009 9:48 AM

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